May 1, 2008
14.00
I’ll bow to your wisdom, commenters, and carry on with this post, since you are. Hey, I might never bother creating a new post again.
First, apple lodges for the blogging hiatus in the wee hours, I have no particular excuse to offer other than a corresponding hiatus in my energy levels, despite the “finger food” (always a sinister phrase), and a slow-up in the flow of information. Had I been more myself (i.e., blogging while wrapped in a blanket and eating a chocolate bar for breakfast, like wot I am now doing) I would have churned out some more reflective stuff in that period. That’s what you get when you put rank amateurs like me on the tellybox.
I am, however hugely chuffed about your contributions, and I’m sorry I couldn’t mention more of them (the whole experience was a lot more fraught than it was probably made to look by the lovely Emily M) but checking in on this thread every now and then helped keep me sane. Sincere apologies to Adrian Sanders (I am particularly pleased about the Exeter majority, it being a place dear to my heart) and Bernard Salmon whose extremely valuable comments got stuck in spam and I only released them at 4am this morning. Annoying, I would obviously have made a lot more of them. That’s bloggin’.
We’ve got Sheffield! Just seen it come up on the Beeb’s tickertape. Re Liverpoo-el, on reflection I could probably have done without that defection - rather as a couple of people below have said. Whatever the details were, it’s going to be milked for all it’s worth by the (Labour mouthpiece) Liverpool Echo over the next year. We made a great fight of it anyway - one seat off a majority in Labour’s key target seat? I’d have been happy with that.
But then, we’re not Liverpool Lib Dems. I can’t imagine how frustrating it must be to see all your ongoing plans and work go up in smoke, especially in the name of “No Overall Control”. I rather trust that they had some good reasons for seeking a cobbled together majority. It may, {she hoped}, be that they’re on the verge of cracking the finance problem (which has, basically, arisen because of the City of Culture thing; anything like that is always going to be an expensive fiasco whatever the cultural benefits, and the ruling party is always going to get it in the neck). If they can turn things around over the next year, they’ll have deserved their relative success.
With 129 official results in it’s fairly certain we’ll finish in the low positives. I said yesterday I’d have been disappointed with less than 25% of the vote share, so our performance is solid from my point of view. Little to add to the excellent analysis at 4am this morning (no, really) by Andy H, in fact. Not at all surprised to see the Beeb et al insisting it’s a failure. Incidentally, Iain D (what a treasure trove of insider information that man is) mentioned to me that people generally get hit over the head with a big stick by the Beeb for “breaking the confidentiality of rehearsals” which was quite blatantly what I did for CiF yesterday. I will let you know if any sharp blows to the head occur. Happily, James Graham has now taken the nuttily hate-filled anti Lib Dem commenters off my hands over there. It really does puzzle me, the maniacal pin-sticking type vitriol that gets poured over us on CiF. It feels like wandering into the wrong paper. Why are they so upset?
In other nutter news, I see that Luke Akehurst’s fake blog stalker person has - if you can believe this - been into my Facebook account (innocently open to mostcomers), and copied a photo of me pretending to be Captain Jack Sparrow in the Balkans last year into his blog, and derived a number of less-than-sophisticated nautical metaphors therefrom. Hasn’t had the decency to link to me, sadly, and that compliment I hereby return.
Now, I really must call my mother.
2ND MAY
03.41
Liverpool… what can I say? Let joy be unconfined. Hopefully about to have a good ol’ fight with Luke about it on air.
Incidentally, someone on Iain’s blog earlier complained that Luke and I hadn’t linked to Iain tonight whereas he had linked to us. So here we are:
I do find the notion that we need to link to Iain rather quaint and charming. My hit rate today, my highest ever, has been less than a tenth of Ian’s on a normal day.
Well, the plug has been pulled and the wine is flowing. A good night. Until tomorrow!
02.49
Just managed to catch a clip of Ringmeister Jeremy Vine and his tragic animation. Now, I’m all for fun and frolics on political programmes. Well, actually, I’m not. But for the love of dear god. With the best will in the world - 25%, four points up on our poll position, we’ve overtaken Labour, we’re the second party in the country… and it’s a POOR PERFORMANCE? Much as I predicted earlier today. Ridiculous.
01.23
The spring rolls are congealed, the lip gloss has all but worn off, but give me more!
Great news!!! With multiple exclamation marks!!! We’ve held Eastleigh!!!
Er. No, not a great surprise, it being Chris Huhne’s seat an’ all. But we have apparently liquidated the last Tory from the council.
Curioser and curioser. We’ve lost three seats to Labour in Bolton… but made them up against the Tories in Stratford. Has the country up-ended itself? The canard about Tory resurgence in the south is now well and truly a dead duck.
My information here at City Hall (very useful having a whole press team hanging around nearby chatting) is that we’ll finish AHEAD of Labour. The figure 27% is being bandied about…
Snapshot: Iain is quoting yet another lascivious Tory commenter from his blog slurping at Emily and/or Clemency. Luke’s blog meanwhile is hosting an argument about George Galloway and the Iraq war. Kind of appropriate in both cases really.
00.45am Harmony in the South-West. Aaaah.
Mr Iain tells me there are two Con gains from Labour in Exeter which puts all three of us on a lovely even 12 seats apiece. Bad, though again not unexpected, news from Pendle - one Con gain from us there. Like Liverpool, it was always going to be a toughie.
At this point I am cautiously extremely happy. The official Beeb position is we’re net one councillor up after eighteen declarations (i.e. about an hour ago), and I haven’t heard anything from my little channels which varies that picture wildly. Given that we would be happy to lose anything under a hundred seats on the back of a great performance in 2004, it’s All Going According to Plan. Not all bad news in Liverpool though - we’re making gains in nearby Knowsley which has been hardcore Labour since the dawn of time. We’ve also taken a ward from Labour in Salford.
00.30am More from the gentle south
Lib Dems are now predicting a majority in Cheltenham (currently even stevens with the Tories) and the Woking news appears hopeful - more to follow.
The political internet continues to explode with indignation at the antics of Jeremy Vine. Let’s see if we can’t stick it to him an’ his graphics next camera shot we get…
00.24am Bizarre result of the night
The Tories hold Broxbourne, as expected, but Labour gain one seat from them to reach a grand total of 3 councillors. Broxbourne? In the middle of Hertfordshire? The SOUTH? What in the name of Champion the Wonder Horse is going on?
00.17am Just in from St Albans
We’re looking good, yellow people. Three wards held and one gain from Labour (only eight Labour councillors there to start with, so a relatively easy mop-up job). Full control beckons.
In other news, I hear one of Guido’s commenters says I look “quite tasty”. Of such august observations does political blogging consist. Just as well I have Iain here to safeguard my virtue.
00.06am Wonderful Winchester and Woeful Wiverpool
Bad is the news from Liverpool just now. Labour have taken three of our seats and we’ve lost another to one of the minor parties. Not wholly unexpected - Labour have thrown everything at Liverpool. More than a couple more losses and I’ll be worried.
But great news from Winchester - a Lib Dem hold, despite all the talk of Tory resurgence in the south east. Plainly the Dave deal has not been sealed.
11.59pm Tories romping away in the south, you say?
That’s what the papers keep telling me. Not at Sandgate in Folkestone & Hythe, it seems! The Lib Dems gain from the Conservatives with a vote share increased by 35.1%. Courtesy of, and congrats to, Tim Prater.
Poor Michael Portillo! No-one at the great big pretend BBC election party wants to talk to him. He’s tucked onto one of the supercool ergonomic sofas reading a book all by his little self…
11.44pm Early Tory gains…
Mr Iain is jubilant - the Tories have retained Tamworth and taken seats in Chorley and Swansea. I also learn from the estimable Mr Dale that the Boris staying on as MP for Henley story is “total rubbish” and I shouldn’t mention it on air or I shall live to regret it. Ooh, Iain, you tease! What do you think I should do, boys and girls?
Great Lib Dem news from Hull! We lost the council after a defection and needed one seat to retake control. And we’ve gained not one seat, but five…
11.01pm A question of milk…
In the preparation for tonight we were all three asked, amongst other things, for our earliest political memory, and I chose Mrs Thatcher taking away my free school milk. Iain wondered how this could be. The original decision to stop school milk was made in the 1970s when Maggie was Ed Sec’y. But we did have free school milk at my primary school (c1983-1987) and it was taken away somewhere in the middle years. It tickles me to recall in this context that I lived in what was then the fifth safest Tory seat in the country (Epsom and Ewell). Did we healthy ruddy Tory children get extra calcium for the greater good?
Can anyone shed any light on this perplexing lactic mystery?
10.50pm Iain Dale-Luke Akehurst sandwich…
The Liberal Democrats are the centre of attention for once here on floor 9 at City Hall as I have managed to bag the central seat by the simple expedient of turning up early. Shock revelations already abound - Luke Akehurst only types with one finger! Overheard in make-up: ”so it’s 53-47 after second preferences”. Nope, I don’t know which way round that was.
In further London news, there have been problems earlier in the day in several London boroughs with ballot paper illegalities, and Iain and Luke are talking across me right this moment about extraordinarily high turnouts across the city. 50% in Chingford and Wood Green, 49% in Hackney. Glad news. On the bus today, I directed a girl to the library, warning her it would be closed because it was the polling station. “I know,” she said, all wounded surprise, “I’m going to vote.” A warm glow! We rode on in companionable silence, perhaps the only two women under thirty in London to vote today… Any more out there?
May 1, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Talking elections with people in the office usually gets me funny looks, but the London Mayor this time does seem to have gained a watercooler cachet.
Oddly it’s the cleaning staff (deciding that Ken is proabaly the lesser of two evils, wanting a balanced Assembly to hold the MAyor to account) seem to be better informed and more engaged than the senior accountants (thinking that voting Bozza would be a laff).
May 1, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I have a confession to make: I voted for Boris as my second preference. This probably makes me a Bad Person.
(But my first preference went to Brian. Maybe that’ll be enough to protect me from revolutionary justice when Boris is overthrown)
May 1, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Much talk about elections in the pub today too. I think this one seems to have got people interested: it’s like Mat says, people get interested if it’s not a foregone conclusion.
* waits impatiently for you to appear on her tellybox *
May 1, 2008 at 10:37 pm
We’ve taken overall control of Hull.
May 1, 2008 at 10:39 pm
* waves *
YAY! There you are! Will, er, Twitter says Lib Dems take Hull!
May 1, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Millenium is making me type:
“oooo, I can SEE you on the TELLY!”
though you probably already know that
May 1, 2008 at 10:42 pm
just had glimpse of all you bloggers with emily matliss - the most exciting thing on bbc coverage so far - hang on Jeremy vine’s got a map
May 1, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Oh God, somebody tell Germy Vine that he’s no substitute for the King of The Swingometer?
May 1, 2008 at 10:48 pm
You couldn’t sneak through into the other room and assassinate Tosser Jowls could you? And Boy George?
* note to terror rozzers: this is a joke. I am not serious.
May 1, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Please can Daddy and me second what Ms Jennie says on Mr Vine.
Dear Ms Alis, if you have ANY power at all to mention it to the BBC powers, do tell them that he’s (a) not got the natural charm to carry it off and (b) is waaaaay to old to be flaunting those jeans at this time of night!!!
May 1, 2008 at 10:58 pm
oooops!
nose too big: sorry Ms AliXXXXX
oooh, you’re up!
May 1, 2008 at 10:59 pm
[...] - And for the Lib Dem is fellow conspirator Alix Mortimer, so that’s one working brain out of three, a better ratio that Question [...]
May 1, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Perhaps your Local Council continued to fund it and it survived until they needed something to cut, another half dozen years?
May 1, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Well done!
Double well done for mentioning Broken-promise Bozza ; don;t know what Mr Dale thinks he’s doing making threats
May 1, 2008 at 11:01 pm
WOH WOH WOH WOH - why did they just show Dale and Akehurst’s blogs and not this one?
May 1, 2008 at 11:01 pm
WHAT??? Alix??? Iain Dale just got the credit for YOUR SCOOP!!! Somebody slap Dimbledore!
May 1, 2008 at 11:02 pm
So this is going to be the usual tokenism then…
* headdesk headdesk headdesk *
May 1, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Great stuff, Alix!
Please tell Iain that not all outer London boroughs are Tory - think Kingston (of course), Sutton, Richmond.
High turnouts here we think.
May 1, 2008 at 11:03 pm
I was born in 82 and I too remember free school milk - I would have been in Scunthorpe when I had it if that makes any difference.
(And it was hideous. They always left it in the sun to get warm.)
May 1, 2008 at 11:04 pm
In defence of Vine, he may not be entirely suited to the swingometer but the man has mighty fine taste in music - a leading British Sea Power, no less.
May 1, 2008 at 11:05 pm
*fan, I mean - British Sea Power fan
May 1, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Well said, Mary.
Tessa Jowell permanently looks like a small creature caught in the headlights.
May 1, 2008 at 11:06 pm
I went to primary school in Oxford and we were still getting free milk in 1982. It was yellow and warm and smelled buttery and I was glad when we didn’t have to drink it anymore.
May 1, 2008 at 11:07 pm
We had free milk too in my first year of school in 1979… oh, that feels like a long time ago! My hunch is that it was paid for by the local council rather than by subsidy from central government. Not much of a solution to your lactic conundrum I’m afraid. More here - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk/2000/uk_confidential/1095121.stm
Incidentally, I was taught the rhyme “Thatcher, Thatcher, milk snatcher” by my primary school teacher. As far as I know, she went on to work in a communist school in Peru.
May 1, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Iain Dale made a point about turnout being up in outer London. Turnout is, of course, up across London as a whole too. The Tories are pretty sure that they have the mayoral race in the bag, and ConHome have ‘called’ it for Boris. Would be pretty embarrassing for them if they got it wrong.
May 1, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Am I the only one who finished off everyone else’s school milk then?
My little girl gets school milk now, but I have to pay for it. I think Maggie just stopped it being FREE, didn’t she?
May 1, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Liberal Conspiracy is calling for Ken Livinstone on the basis of … a wide range of conversations we’ve had throughout the day with people in the field and with senior Labour insider.. and my mates from the pub!
May 1, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Liberal Conspiracy is calling for Ken Livinstone on the basis of … a wide range of conversations we’ve had throughout the day with people in the field and with senior Labour insider.. and my mates from the pub!
May 1, 2008 at 11:11 pm
25. I think Dale looked a bit foolish saying that just a couple of minutes after the point had been made that turnout was very high throughout London. In fairness, I assume the bloggers can’t bear what Robinson et al. are saying.
May 1, 2008 at 11:12 pm
* pokes Sunny for his transparent Labour Bias and runs away giggling, playground style *
I’m calling it for Sian on the basis of too much brandy…
May 1, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Lib Dem website reporting we’ll be the largest party in Cheltenham.
May 1, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Doh, wrong URL:
http://www.liberalconspiracy.org
And can someone please tell Jeremy Vine those graphics are really getting desperate?
May 1, 2008 at 11:14 pm
30. Jenny, that’s a lot of brandy.
May 1, 2008 at 11:15 pm
UGH, JennIE.
Sorry.
May 1, 2008 at 11:16 pm
No worries, Julia
Sunny, I think the graphics guys and girls are taking the mickey out of Jermy Vine’;s total lack of charisma and presentational ability. He can make even the silliest graphic flat and dull…
May 1, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Free school milk was abolished for children of different ages at different times
Secondary School - 1968 (Wilson Government)
Over 7s - 1971 (Heath Government)
Over 5s - 1980 (Thatcher Government)
May 1, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Tories gained two from Labour so far in Birmingham
May 1, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Oh dear: Mr Poraloo and Ms Polly Toytown! What a fun party you are at… throw a STICKY BUN and see if Mr Portaloo’s plastic hair moves!
May 1, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Jennie - I’m shocked! How dare you insinuate I’m trying to stop Boris?
May 1, 2008 at 11:20 pm
34. Only for certain people.
May 1, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Insinuate? I never insinuate!
May 1, 2008 at 11:29 pm
“free school milk” is correct on the useful information he posted above. The rhyme “thatcher, thatcher the milk snatcher” was actually anti-woman because the trade union leader who propogated it thought that Thatcher removing the subsidy for over 7’s free milk was particualary ruthless coming from a woman (a sex he probably associated with kitchen/motherly/caring attributes).
May 1, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Jowell not looking happy about losing Nuneaton… 2 seats up for the BNP is bad, though.
May 1, 2008 at 11:33 pm
it would be marvellous if charles kennedy tangoed george osborne. happy days
May 1, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Lib Dems have gained a seat in Rochdale, so we should remain in control there. Anne Widdecombe is claiming control for the Tories in Maidstone.
May 1, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Bwahahahahahahahahahah Jowell looks like she’s going to burst into tears!
May 1, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Oh no! Mr Vine is getting WORSE!
May 1, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Please please please PLEASE can somebody kill Jeremy Vine? PLEASE???!!!
May 1, 2008 at 11:44 pm
What is ANY of this supposed to MEAN?
May 1, 2008 at 11:45 pm
OH I TAKE IT BACK. STOP VINE, STOP, PLEASE, THEY CAN’T MAKE YOU DO THIS.
May 1, 2008 at 11:45 pm
It means Vine is a tosser…
May 1, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Jeremy Vine should be embarrassed. How on earth did they persuade him to do this?
May 1, 2008 at 11:50 pm
49. Video-evidence involving dwarfs, surely.
May 1, 2008 at 11:52 pm
YAY there’s Alix again!
May 1, 2008 at 11:54 pm
one woman taking on auntie! see the fear in emily’s eye!
May 1, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Mat says the hair looks good
May 1, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Way to go, Alix. Keep the pressure up on Jeremy Vine. He is unbelievably crap!
May 1, 2008 at 11:56 pm
why why WHY isnt it Peter Snow?
May 1, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Five Live just reported a rumour that we’ve gained Oldham.
May 1, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Hi Alix.
Could you tell Ian Dale that he’s a cock?
Thanks.
May 1, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Smack Dale in the chops, Alix.
Also we fancy you greatly.
May 1, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Are you sitting next to Chris Evans long lost brother?
May 1, 2008 at 11:59 pm
or is it Jon Snow…why do they have to be related
May 2, 2008 at 12:00 am
Please to be noting that my Mat only has one T (although TBH he probably would agree with the “fancy you greatly” bit)
May 2, 2008 at 12:00 am
I didn’t even have a liberal Democrat person to vote for!!
What went wrong there?!?!
I’d have voted Lib Dem if i could, i had to go conservative, id rather spoil my ballot than vote labour!
May 2, 2008 at 12:02 am
I thought Peter Snow was dead?
Jeremy Vine is no comedian, but maybe I’m suffering a sense of humour failure after a few losses and more Clegg related mockery? When’s Charlie getting some camera time? Has he had right of reply on the gunslinger rubbish yet?
May 2, 2008 at 12:03 am
No, Andrew, he hasn’t.
May 2, 2008 at 12:03 am
P.S. Alix is fit!
May 2, 2008 at 12:03 am
I’m loving Jeremy Vine, but do you think he could dumb it down just a tad? How about jelly beans to explain the finer points of economics?
May 2, 2008 at 12:03 am
Jeremy Vine is humiliating himself and me for watching him.
I never thought I was clever enough to have my intelligence insulted, but he has managed it.
He has no talent for clowning and comes over like a young Christian trying to interest a bunch of hoodies in the word of the Lord.
It shows contempt for the viewer. I can be interested in the results of a poll without having some awful Darwinian metaphor thrust at me. Just say the Tories are doing better. That’s interesting, it effects my life.
You can see Vine knows this is embarrassing. He’s not a comedian, he’s a journalist.
And then the graphics - can you get them to turn off the moving party symbols? Politicians are difficult to look at at the best of times. My wife fell off the sofa tracking the movement of the Lib Dem sign while watching Charles Kennedy.
It’s the worst presentation I’ve seen in years.
May 2, 2008 at 12:03 am
Never mind Jeremy Vine and his Vaudeville act. Emily Maitlis should be ashamed of herself for being a stooge for John Culshaw’s bad impressions. I thought she wanted to be seen as a heavyweight commentator and instead she comes out as an embarrassing flirt.
May 2, 2008 at 12:04 am
Ive done my bit for Brian for months now with free advertising on my MSN! Pronouncing my love for him has drawn a certain amount of interest, but if its done nothing else, its gotten his fine features out into my circle of friends.
*swoons*
May 2, 2008 at 12:05 am
both Jon and Peter were on tv today seperately so i dont think so……
and now JV has just decided to go dull instead, although looking almost tearful about labour losses
May 2, 2008 at 12:05 am
One result so far in Cardiff - LD gain.
May 2, 2008 at 12:05 am
Myles, getting candidates for councils can be hard, depending on the local area there sometimes isn’t someone prepared to run.
Make sure there is someone next time—join and volunteer
May 2, 2008 at 12:06 am
His David Cameron and Ken Livingstone would appear to need work?
May 2, 2008 at 12:07 am
We have not beeen able to vote in Ilfracombe again. The postal service is so bad we do not get half our letters..
I have complained so many times but nothing s done.
Our address is a very prominent one a listed uilding within the town confines and the house name only is required for a postal address not that this seams to help the north devon district council to actually send us the vote forms.
May 2, 2008 at 12:07 am
I agree with matgb…join and volunteer
May 2, 2008 at 12:07 am
It’s sad to see the tories doing so well and put me in the mindset of voting Labour in a general election to keep them out.
May 2, 2008 at 12:08 am
LD website reports gains on Durham unitary authority.
May 2, 2008 at 12:08 am
Please Please ask Jeremy to change his jeans - the stitching is obscene
May 2, 2008 at 12:08 am
Oh no! We’re out of ICE CREAM and Daddy Richard has COLLAPSED - I blame Mr Vine! The Gunslinger bit was TOO MUCH FOR HIM! I will drag him off to bed: it’s just you and me now, Ms Alix
MM xx
May 2, 2008 at 12:09 am
Mr Vine’s performance is more an indication of the sorry state of our education system. I feel sorry for him. Who scripted this? The minister for education? Ofsted? Or one of Mr Livingstone’s committees? Some of us require a little more substance.
May 2, 2008 at 12:09 am
Another result for you - Liberals hold Rochdale with one seat gained from Labour. No change to Tories (still insignificant).
May 2, 2008 at 12:10 am
Another result for you. Liberals hold Rochdale with one seat gained from Labour. Tories no change and still insignificant.
May 2, 2008 at 12:10 am
I thinking that most people leaving comments here are just trying to get their name read out on telly
May 2, 2008 at 12:11 am
Con lose Colcheser to NOC - Five Live
May 2, 2008 at 12:12 am
I apologise for using ‘effects’ where I meant ‘affects’. Sorry.
May 2, 2008 at 12:12 am
Alix arent you on here to talk politics, rather than hit-on by strange disemboidied voices?
May 2, 2008 at 12:12 am
Millennium, if that wasn’t bad enough, I’m out of brandy
May 2, 2008 at 12:13 am
I’m hoping to have my name read out at tomorrow’s Wakefield declaration!
May 2, 2008 at 12:14 am
Have now started a drinking game based around Tessa Jowell blames “local issues”. The way it’s going, this may be a terribly bad idea.
May 2, 2008 at 12:15 am
Hi
I voted for “you” tonight why?…….because the LD have an honest edge that others fail by miles to achieve………….
Tessa Jowel was a flounder tonight and failed on all counts to convince me she was comfortable in the studio…….btw
Bring back Charles K………….what a statesman
good luck
Andrew
May 2, 2008 at 12:15 am
ONE SEAT UP YAY!!!!!!
excuse me while i dance manically
May 2, 2008 at 12:16 am
Goodnight Daddy Richard
May 2, 2008 at 12:17 am
I live in Bradford and not one of my local candidates in Shipley covered the fact that half the city is knocked down, I have always voted, but today I can not. Bradford is a truly lost city, with no direction. Not a city its a non middle England place to live. We need a working class party, but we don’t have one. Labour will not post a budget last year, lib dems are a group of nutters, and the tories are doing so badly in charge, so do I vote for a nutter like BNP or the greens so I can be involved. This is a bad day for democracey. I can’t spell because I came through the bad run scotish council, are we in ENGLAND?
May 2, 2008 at 12:17 am
REMEMBER
winners might not always win BUT that doesnt make them wrong ………smile now……..lol
Andrew
May 2, 2008 at 12:17 am
@googlebrat: good news: I may be out of brandy but the other half has donated some Jack Daniels. Can I have a Boy George Osbourne drinking game? I’d say “every time he looks insufferably smug” but I’d be on the floor in seconds…
* secure in the knowledge that her local count isn’t even starting till 9 am *
May 2, 2008 at 12:18 am
Any one see question time befoe all this started? Paddy Ashdown for president!!
May 2, 2008 at 12:18 am
Looks like many local towns have got the blues
May 2, 2008 at 12:19 am
The country seems to be turning blue… oh dear.
May 2, 2008 at 12:19 am
I’m still very interested to see the Liverpool results, I’ve campaigned bloody tirelessly there, and hope the fruits of my work are evident.
May 2, 2008 at 12:21 am
JV back on watch out
May 2, 2008 at 12:21 am
YAY a mention for Vince!
May 2, 2008 at 12:21 am
Vine’s back…
May 2, 2008 at 12:22 am
Are we that desperate for even a mention?
May 2, 2008 at 12:22 am
Broadly speaking our loses and gains seem to be cancelling out to give us a good overall result…bring back Charles K…what about Paddy Ashdown…brilliant performance on Question Time….
May 2, 2008 at 12:22 am
Great result re St Albans!
Missing your comments, though …
Agree re Master Vine - go back to your Radio 2 slot. And those jeans! Well sad….
May 2, 2008 at 12:23 am
Bolton has a hung council !
I hope the ropes are nice and strong!
My wheelie bin has not been emptied for 5 weeks!
May 2, 2008 at 12:23 am
I’m really not sure about this Stalin business. It was a funny joke when it was first made, but showing Brown as Stalin in a semi-serious manner is a bit off. They couldn’t get away with doing the same with, say, Hitler or Mao.
May 2, 2008 at 12:24 am
Exactly the point. Paddy Ashdown for president!
gods JV needs to die
May 2, 2008 at 12:24 am
I wasn’t going to, but i agree with your views on Jeremy Vine, the worst thing is, it is not even his fault. Blame the writers!
May 2, 2008 at 12:24 am
Hello Alix, Its Tom from the Maid….yes I’m up at 1am watching the election coverage and happened to spot you on the telly.
Great job with the Lib Dems blog…keep it up!
May 2, 2008 at 12:24 am
YAY an appearance for Vince!
* fangirls Vince *
Dimbledore actually appears to be giving him some respect! Go Vince!
May 2, 2008 at 12:25 am
Why has the election coverage become a dedication for Rowan Atkinson? Surreal.
May 2, 2008 at 12:25 am
i love vince cable and i’m not even a lib dem
May 2, 2008 at 12:25 am
I’m really not sure about this Stalin business. It was a funny joke when it was first made, but showing Brown as Stalin in a semi-serious manner is a bit off. They couldn’t get away with doing the same with, say, Hitler or Mao.
May 2, 2008 at 12:26 am
@99, yes, Paddy was fab on QT.
May 2, 2008 at 12:26 am
I would just like to say that no-matter how hard it is to canvass in England it is harder in good old Northern Ireland. Looks like labour will take a hammering forgive me if I am not upset.
May 2, 2008 at 12:26 am
Not much exciting happening in Peterborough…waiting on the results for South Werrington and Gunthorpe which is a ward we were hoping to gain another councillor and Walton…
May 2, 2008 at 12:26 am
Bring back the swingometer it was much more fun than Jeremy Vine.
May 2, 2008 at 12:27 am
@107, Vince was a major factor in me actually biting the bullet and joining the party
May 2, 2008 at 12:27 am
Vine is the new jeremy clarkson, I dont think I want to wear jeans again . . .
May 2, 2008 at 12:27 am
Vince very strong as usual.
May 2, 2008 at 12:27 am
Alix - clemancy benson hedges is nothing to you
May 2, 2008 at 12:29 am
116. She is extremely hot, mind.
May 2, 2008 at 12:30 am
AHEAD OF LABOUR WOOWWWWWW
May 2, 2008 at 12:30 am
Slight dissapointment in Peterborough strong independant vote derails us in South Werrington…the world keeps turning
May 2, 2008 at 12:31 am
Bolton has a hung council !
I hope the ropes are nice and strong!
My wheelie bin has not been emptied for 5 weeks!
May 2, 2008 at 12:31 am
Didnt you just say that?
May 2, 2008 at 12:32 am
117. but can she blog? methinks not
May 2, 2008 at 12:32 am
@121 yes he did….i cant help thinking at least they are hanging a council not a monkey…
May 2, 2008 at 12:32 am
mmm Brian
May 2, 2008 at 12:32 am
Tories gaining from Lib Dems up here, and the BNP have two seats in Rotherham. Arsebiscuits.
May 2, 2008 at 12:33 am
@123, it’s Bolton, not Hartlepool
May 2, 2008 at 12:33 am
I have it on good authority that Labour have taken Anfield in Liverpool.
Writing it up now…
liverpoollabour.wordpress.com
May 2, 2008 at 12:34 am
@126 lol i know…still made me think of that poor monkey…had they invented the RSPCA at that time
May 2, 2008 at 12:34 am
its a very low turn out everywhere. I here dunning-on-the-wold only had one voter
May 2, 2008 at 12:35 am
The BNP casues me sleepless nights. But i suppose at least they will never be in Parliment
May 2, 2008 at 12:35 am
122. Oh yuh, don’t get me wrong, character and intelligence over blondeness any day.
Courtesy of smatterings of peroxide, I have all three.
May 2, 2008 at 12:35 am
My dad is from Stockton, he uses Monkey-Hangers as an all-purpose insult for stupid people.
May 2, 2008 at 12:35 am
@113 don’t get me wrong, i’m not knocking vine, but you can’t deny it’s bizarre
May 2, 2008 at 12:35 am
jesus - does shaun bailey really believe what he’s saying!?
May 2, 2008 at 12:36 am
mmm Blackshirts are back
May 2, 2008 at 12:36 am
@129: hurrah for a Blackadder joke!
Can I just say that this is the first time I have ever been on television or have we not got time? [/monty python]
May 2, 2008 at 12:36 am
no Boris isnt silly hes stupid
May 2, 2008 at 12:38 am
Good anti-BNP man on tv
May 2, 2008 at 12:38 am
If the Lib Dems come out in second place that is a good result…
May 2, 2008 at 12:39 am
Oxford: Lab up 4, LD up 1, Lab one short of overall control.
May 2, 2008 at 12:39 am
is anyone else getting very worried about the BNP it is all well and good us talking about cons vs labour but i have seen what happens when extremists are on the rise
May 2, 2008 at 12:39 am
I think the Stalin / Bean photos were quite funny. Will I get lynched for saying that?
Just now that Tory was saying something about Boris being the sharpest tool. I partially agree - Boris is certainly a tool…
May 2, 2008 at 12:40 am
Lib Dems are the bigest party on Exeter CC. Labour now the third party having been the ruling group. Lab -3, Con +2, LD +1 = 13 LD, 12 Con, 11 Lab, and 4 M/Lib.
May 2, 2008 at 12:40 am
Yeah, 140, I worry about the BNP. We had 4 of the buggers at one point in Calderdale, we’re down to 0 now because the remaining one got kicked out of the party, but it will be interesting to see what happens with them here.
May 2, 2008 at 12:40 am
I think most people vote BNP to send a clear message to the government on the immigration situation. It’s really a cry for help as no sane person would vote for them.
May 2, 2008 at 12:41 am
I’m not worried in so far as they are carving out a niche…they are skillfully exploiting grievences and channeling it in their direction and that does need to be addressed not dismissed…it cant be addressed by senseless bans and no platforming..
May 2, 2008 at 12:41 am
Why did he get kicked out? for being too openminded?
May 2, 2008 at 12:41 am
Since you’re on live BBC television, please can you rickroll the entire UK?
May 2, 2008 at 12:42 am
Alex - these gains are not significant. I’ll worry when the BNP get close to double figures in terms of vote share.
May 2, 2008 at 12:42 am
I live in the north west. The BMP are all over here, But Im not worried. apart from bricking up the channel tunnel they have no other real policies.
May 2, 2008 at 12:42 am
No platform is the worst response to the BNP, you’re right on that 144
May 2, 2008 at 12:43 am
The projected national share is interesting big big con majority could be another 3rd place for labour
May 2, 2008 at 12:43 am
145, /dan, he got kicked out for voting yes to a planning application for something to be built on green belt land,. which is apparently agin BNP policy.
May 2, 2008 at 12:43 am
Please someone tell me they heard the Con guy that Emily was interviewing accidently called Boris a “sharp tool”! Brilliant. Does anyone actually think Boris wants the gig btw?
Oh and yes, Jeemy V in the studio has proper lost the plot. Cowboys and shooting tin cans??? kin hell.
May 2, 2008 at 12:44 am
Yay! Second place!
May 2, 2008 at 12:45 am
25% is very credible…a good night for the Lib Dems…
May 2, 2008 at 12:45 am
The BNP may not be making “significant” gains but we can’t take our eyes of them we laughed at the extremists in a local by-election a few months ago. They ended up fionishing third they went from 0 votes to 750
May 2, 2008 at 12:46 am
ok strange minds they have but there members of the BNP should i have expected anyhting more?
May 2, 2008 at 12:48 am
@155….we have to be looking at the grivences they are exploiting…combating the idea that the BNP’s politics address them but opening a dialogue with the people who are voting for them and winning those who are winnable back into the mainstream back…
May 2, 2008 at 12:48 am
156, Dan, would argue with the description of what is in the BNP’s heads as “minds”
May 2, 2008 at 12:48 am
th lib dems have made an overall gain atm. looks ok for them
May 2, 2008 at 12:48 am
155, I remember reading that BNP were averaging 13% in the seats they’d contested. Travesty.
May 2, 2008 at 12:48 am
Lib Dems have now gained five seats. Come ON!
May 2, 2008 at 12:49 am
Right me be off ill keep everyhting crossed just to get 25% still a 1/4 of the vote im more worried about the Mayoral tommorow but im having to resign myself to another 4 yrs of cr*p
May 2, 2008 at 12:49 am
One of the biggest indications for me in this election is that the labour ministers seem so subdued they seem to have had the bravado kicked out of them. Apart from your chief whip
May 2, 2008 at 12:50 am
G’night Dan.
May 2, 2008 at 12:50 am
There’s a rolling results service on the front page of http://www.libdems.org.uk and on http://www.twitter.com/resultsservice
May 2, 2008 at 12:50 am
Lib Dems are holding firm…Labour is tail spinning…Tories are on the up…thats the summary of the night i think…
May 2, 2008 at 12:51 am
the con have lost 7 seats in the last few minutes interesting
May 2, 2008 at 12:51 am
There’s a rolling results service on the front page of the Lib Dem website, and on the resultsservice Twitter account.
May 2, 2008 at 12:52 am
Alot of the hung councils could be won if the Lib Dems in the area were better funded and had more publicity. In Hounslow I got a leaflet two days before the election showing the gap between Tory and the Lib Dems, yet I hadn’t even heard of the Lib Dem candidate til then.
May 2, 2008 at 12:52 am
Lets face it, with Ed Milliband representing the Labour party William Vague looks positively interesting.
No clue Labour do not, or will not, represent the common man in this country if that means going against the money men. If only the Lib (fib) Dems could get themselves sorted out, meaning not watered down version of the Conservatives, they coulod possibly do this country some good. If only they had someone who had the balls to take the party by the scruff of the neck, give it a good shake, and kick out the wishy-washy then even I wouold change who I vote for…
KITWY….Col
May 2, 2008 at 12:52 am
Judging from the map on the Swansea website, that’s set to stay NOC but Labour to become largest party.
May 2, 2008 at 12:52 am
Cons ‘Bury’ Labour. Sun headline tomo. Feel free to use.
May 2, 2008 at 12:53 am
@160…these people are people who are feeling alienated from the political process…thats the concern….and to dismiss them out of hand is the danger…
May 2, 2008 at 12:54 am
That look did not do Balls any good.
May 2, 2008 at 12:55 am
Hoon and Milliband are not coping with being behind us, are they?
May 2, 2008 at 12:55 am
Squirm squirm wrangle wrangle…. blah blah. Balls is talking.
May 2, 2008 at 12:56 am
@170 maybe but they are more likley to use the headline “Jordan’s nipple slips out again”
Dont read the sun, its not good for you
May 2, 2008 at 12:56 am
The Tory chic has an AWFUL top on… and I’m straight!
May 2, 2008 at 12:56 am
atleast he has some fight left the labour ministers are reminding me of the latter major ministers
May 2, 2008 at 12:56 am
“Tom Harding Says:
May 2, 2008 at 12:25 am
Why has the election coverage become a dedication for Rowan Atkinson? Surreal.”
Didn’t a character rowen atkinson played win a local / general election??
May 2, 2008 at 12:57 am
I love the way Geoff Hoon is hiding his head in the sand and pretending everything is ok….we will see at the next general!
I agree with the hung council comment miget if lib dems had more money and more resources we would see many more gains.
May 2, 2008 at 12:57 am
“Tom Harding Says:
May 2, 2008 at 12:25 am
Why has the election coverage become a dedication for Rowan Atkinson? Surreal.”
Didn’t a character rowan atkinson played win a local / general election??
May 2, 2008 at 12:58 am
No, it was a character Tony Robinson played in Blackadder, Baldrick.
May 2, 2008 at 12:59 am
Labour have taken Durham. Who ever said it was a completely bad night?
May 2, 2008 at 12:59 am
Blimey, it’s booming in here. I shall now retire though; goodnight all, and of course many congratulations to Ms Mortimer who has truly excelled, a sparkly jewel in the rough of the otherwise rubbish BBC coverage.
Plus - 25% is not bad at all. Keep the faith, people.
May 2, 2008 at 1:00 am
180, 181, yes, but Blackadder fixed the election. He was the only voter, but her voted 12,000 times…
May 2, 2008 at 1:00 am
@175
Sorry, you’re right.
“Cam’ron ‘Bury’s’ Labour is sh*t” would be more likely.
I don’t read the sun, I was only pretending.
May 2, 2008 at 1:01 am
@182….there are always odd exceptions to the rule…this is a disaster for Labour Luke…and it will become a calamity if Boris wins tomorrow
May 2, 2008 at 1:01 am
It was the dunning-on-the-wold by election,
Blackadder was the electoral agent and voter,
Baldrick was the candidate, he was up against Pitt the even younger
May 2, 2008 at 1:01 am
Lord Hoyle, what an inbread going on about listen to this and listen to that but, never mind listening to Joe public cause he isn’t of the class……insert marbles into mouth and read aloud
May 2, 2008 at 1:02 am
Gains in St Helens, and Liverpool though Darrell, looks to me like the North might not be as bad for Labour as the Tories and Lib Dems might have hoped.
May 2, 2008 at 1:02 am
I love how this is way off the topic.
May 2, 2008 at 1:03 am
The cons are making gains again I think 150 is a respectable target
May 2, 2008 at 1:04 am
This is totaly off the subject but I have to ask, Where the hell do they get the figure £23′000 from for the average wage in the UK ? ? ?
May 2, 2008 at 1:04 am
@189 ..and you lost seats in Sunderland…the problem is this..the core vote doesnt want to vote for you…the vote that was never a core vote is flaking off elsewhere…that spells a looming electoral disaster for Labour…